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  Whats your opinion of the WTS. apologizing now for its past wrongful teachings ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  2. beliefs

  something happened recently by the wts.

  that doesn't rarely often and that is the wts.

  executive editors apologizing for the organization's past mistakes and proclamations.

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  Aussie Oz

  They have never and will never make true apologies.

  All they make is verbel posturings of self justification

  oz
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  Mindy Macreedy Committed Suicide At Age 37! Country Singer Uses Gun To Head!

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  2. entertainment

  sorry to release this bad news now, poor mindy was plagued with bad juju in life.

  the article says the father of her ten month old recently killed himself too!

  why the deep sadness and despair of depression, what can't we help people like her before they "off" themselves.

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  Never heard of her sorry to say...not my genre of music.

  But very sad tale. I have no doubt she regretted the first time she took drugs. What a way to screw yourself. This story is played out all over the world and most never get so much as a 2 line mention in the obituaries.

  I feel sorry for the children, they had no choice. (i hope i dont come accross cold, I have been suicidal too, just chose not to)

  Oz
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  Sleeping separately?

  by usualusername in

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  is their any good reason for a hubby/wife lovers to sleep separately?.

  uun.

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  Get a king size bed.

  In my mind, seperate beds in the same room might be an answer to a fidget, kinda hello 1950's. But seperate rooms...i reckon a slippery slope to nothing more than a glorified flat mate.

  Oz
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  I Got disfellowshiped..wana die!

  by Chichi89 in

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  2. friends

  i jus got dissfellowshiped at th last week..i feel like dying..i attended th meetings yesterday and ita ws jus horrible..came back home in tears....... people i used to cal my friends nw cant look me in the eye..so heartbroken confused and giving up on life !.

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  So good to see you are still with us

  being a witness is all i hver known..my belifs affect by way of life...everting.wat and how i eat,recreate,seek companionship ,how i spend my free time,who i love ...th list is endless..

  This should be telling you something Chichi...what are your own words telling you?

  Oz
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  December 15 Watchtower --- A New Low in WT Anti-Intellectualism

  by Room 215 in

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  2. beliefs

  i wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition wt "the simplified watchtower .. why introduced" i couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. i was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:.

  one egregious example: " the time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson.".

  one jw cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary.

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  I can see a study article from the near future here...

  ''Welcome to todays watchtower lesson, lets have the first paragraph read''...

  Paragraph 1: OBEY the Governing body.

  Thankyou

  Question for paragraph 1: WHO are you to OBEY?

  yes brother clever?

  We are to OBEY the Governing Body.

  well, thats it for todays watchtowers study...wasn't that refreshingly to the point brothers and sisters''?

  Oz
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  Notes from "Safeguard Your Conscience" Special Assembly Day

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently we had the 'privilege' of attending our local special assembly day.

  the theme for this year was safeguard your conscience, and you guessed it, they looked up every reference to the word 'conscience' in the bible and then wrote a talk about each one.

  it was most definitely a case of "pack your bags, we're going on a guilt trip.".

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  Workmates and social networking is also a way for our conscience to be harmed

  uhh...I guess the outline omitted the fact that the WTBTS has a TWITTER account? S.O.C.I.A.L. N.E.T.W.O.R.K

  https://twitter.com/jworg

  I wonder how many in the audience would have had their conscience harmed by knowing that one?

  Oz
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  Australia formally charges former JW elder

  by Honesty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  former jehovah's elder on sex assault charge .

  a former jehovah's witness elder who apologised to his alleged victim on facebook has been charged with two counts of indecent assault.

  richard hill will appear in the heidelberg magistrate's court on march 1 over allegations that he sexually assaulted a six-year-old girl in 1981.. the victim, now 38, told fairfax media that mr hill did everything except penetrate her - ''he tried, but couldn't manage''.. she said she ''did not realise the gravity'' of what had happened until she was about 14.. at that point she told her mother, who could not act because of a jehovah's witness rule that allegations of sexual abuse would only be acted on if two elders witnessed it, she said.. much later, the victim confronted mr hill on facebook.

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  Oh, and good timing in Victoria eh?

  oz
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  Australia formally charges former JW elder

  by Honesty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  former jehovah's elder on sex assault charge .

  a former jehovah's witness elder who apologised to his alleged victim on facebook has been charged with two counts of indecent assault.

  richard hill will appear in the heidelberg magistrate's court on march 1 over allegations that he sexually assaulted a six-year-old girl in 1981.. the victim, now 38, told fairfax media that mr hill did everything except penetrate her - ''he tried, but couldn't manage''.. she said she ''did not realise the gravity'' of what had happened until she was about 14.. at that point she told her mother, who could not act because of a jehovah's witness rule that allegations of sexual abuse would only be acted on if two elders witnessed it, she said.. much later, the victim confronted mr hill on facebook.

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  Ans this may well be pertinant...

  km10/72p.8QuestionBoxBox Whatismeantby"someyearsago"onpage170,paragraphtwo,inthe"Organization"book?

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  This indicates more than a year or two. It may be noted that it did not say "many years ago." So it is not an exact number of years, but more like two or three years. It was not intended to have a brother go back into the distant past to bring up wrongs of which he repented years ago and that have evidently been forgiven by Jehovah and are not being practiced now. In many cases the wrongs occurred prior to the time when the "Watchtower" drew attention to what the Scriptures say on such misconduct.

  If a brother has been serving faithfully for some years and has seen evidence of Jehovah?s blessings upon him, why should he now step down from office? If he has the right viewpoint now on conduct and will give good counsel he should be able to continue to serve. If the local body of elders see that he has the respect of the congregation and has shown the proper qualifications over the last two or three years, he may remain in his position of service.

  Must wrongdoing be brought to public attention after many years? The book (page 168) under "Public Reproof" quotes 1 Timothy 5:20 and mentions reproof of those who confess to committing more than one offense. But it really has to do with recent events. The "Interlinear" refers to those "sinning," something going on at the time. So if repentance occurred some years ago, three years ago or more, and sinning ceased, and he is respected by the congregation, it is not necessary now to publicly reprove one who committed more than one offense "some years ago."

  So he gets to abuse a girl, either repent or say nothing...'Holy spirit' has him become an elder. shit hits fan 32 years later, steps down...If he and the elder body are so damn sure of holy spirit they should keep him on then

  Oz
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  Interesting Comment From an Active Elder

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was recently speaking to an elder "off the record" while helping him do some house repairs.

  i have a comfortable enough relationship to speak openly with him about things, but am careful to disclose the extent of my disbelief in wt doctrine.

  anyway, this guy wouldn't last a day in the mafia because he can't keep anything confidential.

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  careful

  he might be fishing you

  oz
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  My wife just told me to move out...

  by nolongerconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.

  she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.

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  Zip the lip about TTABTT and inform her that she has no grounds to scripturly move out. even less so if you do not hinder her JW activity in anyway.

  oz